Greatest Pitcher Ever and why?
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Nolan RyanHe played in a record-tying 27 seasons. Ryan still holds many major-league pitching records, some by such wide margins over previous marks that they will likely stand for many years. He was inducted in to the Hall of Fame in 1999.
Ryan, a hard throwing right handed pitcher, threw pitches which were regularly recorded in the 100-mph range, even past the age of 40. The media tagged him "The Ryan Express" (a reference to the 1965 film Von Ryan's Express).
Ryan was an eight-time MLB All-Star, and his 5,714 career strikeouts rank first in baseball history. He leads the runner-up, Roger Clemens, by approximately 1,200 strikeouts. Similarly, Ryan's 2,795 bases on balls lead second-place Steve Carlton by 962—walking over 50% more men than any other pitcher in Major League history.
Ryan is also the all-time leader in no-hitters with seven, three more than any other pitcher. He is tied with Bob Feller for the most one-hitters with 12.
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Would be a toss up between Bob Gibson and Sandy Koufax.two of the most dominant pitchers ever...I think Sandy finished with 4 no hitters and just completely overwelmed the batters..he sure gave my Yankees fits in the 60's and so did Gibson...would have to go with Gibson.one of the most clutch pitchers ever to throw a baseball for a living....Gibson would have to be it....Nolan Ryan because of his ability to strike out people or Rich Gossage because of his ability to keep games in the win column.
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Bob Gibson because of him the mound was lowered 5" after striking out a record (and still holds)15 batters Game 1 1963 world seriesin 1968 he had a 1.12 ERA 13 shutouts and earned only 2 runs in 98 innings pitched
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If you go by stats alone, then the old timers who won 400 to 500 games, Cy Young, Christy Matthewson, et al. My favorite was Steve Carlton. But only when he was a Cardinal. :-)Which brings me to Bob Gibson, maybe the best who ever played the game.
The year he had a 1.12 ERA he LOST TEN GAMES. Go figure his run support. He once said "To hell with the team getting runs. I'll go out and pitch shutouts." So he did.
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Its a tough choice.You can go with the all time wins leader in Cy Young (511-316, 2.63 ERA, 2803 K)
I would never say Nolan Ryan, he has low winning percentage with his record (324-292) and his best season he was 22-16.
I would have to go with Roger Clemens, career record is 348-178, career ERA is 3.10 and he has 4,604 Strikeouts.
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Cy Young,most wins anda great ERA along with a WS title.Who is the better right fielder. Ordonez or Dye?
Nolan Ryan is NO WHERE CLOSE to the greatest pitcher.Yes, he had the most K's, but his lead in career strikeouts is no where close to his lead in walks.
He won 20 games twice, never won a Cy young, has just over a .500 winning percentage.
While his H/9IP ratio was great, he walked 200 batters in a season a number of times.
7 no hitters, none of them perfect games means he had a hard time being hit, but an equally hard time staying around the plate. I think Joe Cowley had a no hitter (he won 4-1) and walked 7, striking out 8.
Koufax would be a great choice if not for the fact that he had only 5 dominant years.
Lefty Grove is another possibility.
However, I think modern time dictates Maddux on the finese side and Clemens on the Power side.
Older era says Walter Johnson or Christy Mattewson.
Johnson struck out 3700 batters and it remained a record for 6 decades.
He had over 100+ shutouts in his career as well and a really low ERA.
Really, the Cy Young award should be the Walter Johnson award.
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if you go by stats alone its nolan ryan by a long shot. 7 no hitters? thats amazing, it amazing if a pitcher gets one let alone 7. But i would go with randy johnson or bob gibson if I need to win a baseball game.Cy Young...Have you ever heard of that award
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Roger Clemons, his seven Cy Young Awards speak for themselves.Nolan Ryan lost 294 games. There is no way he is the greatest pitcher ever.
Pedro Martinez was one of the most dominant pitchers ever. Look at his numbers during some very offensive years for baseball.
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In his prime, I would say Gibson, with Koufax as a close second. I would also argue Hershiser was almost as dominant in the late eighties.For his career (longevity and dominance), I would have to go with Ryan and Clemens.
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Babe Ruth, he was one heck of a pitcher setting world series records for Lefthanders before it was decided that he would be more valuable playing everyday because of his hitting. Lefty Grove was there also, an awesome pitcher, best winning percentage over 100 decisions and his ERA was a couple runs below the norm.trick question. it's babe ruth for all around contribution. i'm from st. louis so i'm partial to bob gibson and JOSE OQUENDO.haha.little joke.jose did pitch in a game before though.
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Walter Johnson, Lefty Grove, or Roger Clemens.Johnson: over 5900 IP in 21 seasons (and usually playing with a bad Senators team), always among the league leaders in ERA (five titles), third-highest career adjusted ERA (behind Grove and not-done-yet Pedro Martinez). Immense total value. In terms of durability and dominance, only Clemens comes close. Held the career record for strikeouts for decades, which is a nice bonus point.
Grove: eight league ERA titles in an 11-year period, nine titles overall, and over half of this came in the high-scoring 1930s era. That is an unreal peak, and gets him the second-highest career adjusted ERA. Several strikeout titles as well. Got a late start in the majors (age 25) because his minor league team didn't want to sell him; had he come up at age 20 or 21, we'd probably have a third 400-game winner, and Grove might have pushed Johnson aside decisively (as it is, Johnson pitched about 2000 more innings, and that's too huge a difference to overlook; innings pitched are valuable).
Clemens: still going. Dominant over a 20-year-plus period of high offense, relief pitching, designated hitters, stingy umpires, batting armor, and bats designed to untangle the twistiest of pitches. Seven Cy Young Awards, with an 18-year span between the first and (apparently) last ones. The last starting pitcher to take home a league MVP Award (which says more about the writers than it does about Clemens). His worst season (by adjERA) was a whisker below league-average. This man could strike out 5000 and win 400 games if he wants to; we'll see. Some guys pitch great; Clemens is a great pitcher.
I'm leaving Pedro Martinez out of contention simply because he hasn't put up enough innings yet, his health always a problem. If he comes back strong, showing flashes of classic Pedro, goes to age 40 with 180+ IP per season, gets his wins over 250, and keeps his all-time best career adjERA where it is or higher, he'll definitely shove his way into the discussion. But not yet.
Anyway... depending on what you want from "greatest", Johnson is tops the career value, Grove in peak (and an extended one at that), Clemens a cross between the two with the caveat that he still isn't retired. If he comes back in 2008 and 2009 (and he could) and winds up with 380+ wins and around 5000 strikeouts and doesn't damage his career ERA much, the debate may be over.
Cy Young. His all-time record of 511 career wins will never be touched. Today's greatest pitchers struggle in the twilight of their careers just to get to 300.
There is a reason why the yearly award for the most valuable pitcher in each league is named after him.
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Steve "Lefty" Carlton. I looked up his stats the other day, totally dominant, just was on a bad team. Like the year he was on the Phillies, he went 27 - 10, but the team only won 59 games. Now that's a shame, because he was a great pitcher, just not on the greatest team.Seriously, though, this guy is never considered, and should be. Although he's weird, he was an amazing pitcher.
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Nolan ryanfastest ever, 7 NO HITTERS!
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Roger Clemens is the best living pitcher, and maybe the best of all time. I put him ahead of Walter Johnson and Grover Alexander because he has pitched in the what is know as the live ball era. Sure, those guys amassed more innings than he has so far, but he is second on the all time strike out list, and has a career 3.10 ERA while pitching against the likes Canseco, Griffey, McGuire, and Thome.Did Johnny Damon leave the Boston Red Sox becuase he`s a greedy traitor?
Bob Feller. He won 266 games, AND MISSED 4 YEARS SERVING AS AN ANTIAIRCRAFT GUNNER FOR THE NAVY IN WW2At age 23, he volunteered to join the Navy. By that time, he had won 107 games. The two years after the war, he won 26 and 20 games, respectively. He struck out 348 batters in 1946, one year after WW2.
If he had chosen not to serve, just add 20 wins per year plus to his totals. Awesome.
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Depends on if you're a purist or not . A purist would pick a guy like Gibson, Koufax, Ryan, and such . But credit needs to be given to a guy who did everything . And no pitcher has done as much all-around, than Babe Ruth . When we analyze and grade other players, ALL of their stats are taken into consideration . For example, a short-stop with less than 10 errors is doing very good . But if his batting average isn't much, he's not getting into the Hall of Fame . Well , Babe Ruth did it all . And better than anybody else too . I'd bet that most 35 and under folks don't even know about Babe's huge success as a pitcher !!More Questions & Answers...