Is dice-k really all that good??


Question:just watched the seattle/boston game and was not that impressed with the japaneese phenom dice-k. sure he has a lot of movement on his breaking stuff and does have a 92 mph fast ball but he just didn't look that good to me. he does have ichiro's number tho. what do you think about him?? and how about felix hernandez?? 3rd complete game already this year and had a no-no going into the eighth. i think thats your american league cy young guy there. what do you think??

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Of course not! He's a minor league pitcher pitching in the major leagues. He's so-called fast ball didn't show up tonight, if he ever had a fastball! $102 million dollars for this loser. Nice going Boston!!

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he is good, just give himk time, and although he lost tonight, its not like he got whipped. so he gave up three in 7 innings.. thats not too shabby, if his team would have put a few points on the board, maybe he wouldnt have won. but when you get shut out, its hard to point the finger at the pitcher for losing the game.

imagine that, a yank fan saying something like the comment below.. haha

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He is good, Felix Hernandez was just better tonight.

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Im watching and dont think he is the savior of the Boston Red sox as so many thought.
Lets go YANKEES.

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hernandez is a young, talented pitcher but i dont think he's winning cy young. there are many others in the AL like santana or halladay who are major canadates. i like dice k, but im not sure how long it will take for hitters to figure him out.

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i think felix is a phenom himself, and should get as much hype as dice-k. he just threw a one hitter shut out. the dude is really good. im not skeptical about dice cuz its still what his second game? and he still has time to improve. he did look good tho. as of right now, theres of course much better pitchers out there such as felix, but dice just barely started pitching in the mlb. so we'll have to see.

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I think he's pretty good. You can't judge him on only his first couple games in the states. I think more important than his baseball skills is what he's going to do for the city of Boston. So many changes are being made to accomodate the Asian tourists he is expected to bring in. From menu changes to gift shop items, he's bringing a lot of culture to the entire city, which I think is great.

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dice-k still pitched good despite the loss. the sox just couldnt hit the ball thats not dice-k's fault...he'll be the red sox ace soon.

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Alright bro... im PRETTY sure the sox know what they are doing... they wouldnt pay him a 52 million dollar contract if he "wasnt that good"... really. AND.. i really dont think ANYONE can make a suggestion like "the most-wanted import is gunna be a bust" based upon one performance... Nolan Ryan had bad games.. so did everybody else thats ever pitched ever in the history of the world...
NOW.. addressing your assumtion that Felix Hernandez will win the Cy Young.. (laughs hystarically for a minute)
REALLY!?!??!! again.. how can u base something as important as the CY YOUNG on ONE SINGLE GAME??? i think u are crazy to be pickin Cy Young winners on the 10th day of the season. Three completes is impressive, but everyone has their streaks... so be careful with that one... lmao... anyways.. peace out...

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he definately didnt have his best stuff but come one, 7 innnings of 3 runs? The sox didnt have any offense, he should have won that game easily

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Dice-K will most likely be like Hideo Nomo. He will be good his first couple years, and then fade away. He pitched good enough not to lose tonight, but the offense deserted him. Sox fans shouldn't get too worked up over his first start. It was the Royals...not the best team to measure a pitcher against.

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He will be that good, when it's warmer and he can command his pitches a bit better. You can't judge him on one game...he was lights out last week, although the royals ain't much of a test. It's a bit early to be saying King Felix will dethrone Johan for the Cy Young. And the Yankees fan is just mad they didn't bid higher.

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that's hernandez' second start of the season. Still, a great start!

Especially seeing him shut down the Sox is great.

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one word = OVERRATED

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No not at all he shouldn't be playing in the MLB Johan Santana is the best Pitcher he rocks.
Twins rock

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he was okay felix was GREAT almost 8 inings of no hit ball and hes only 21 that man has a long way to go

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He's very good. Not the perfect "gyro-ball" unbeatable pitcher he's been hyped up to be though. He'll just be another good, durable pitcher. I don't think tonight was bad at all for him. To pitch for the Red Sox and only give up 3 runs should win the game with their offense. Give it a little time. Also, bear in mind that when a team gets beaten as badly as the Mariners did the night before, they often come out the next day with a vengeance. I'm surprised they didn't hit better.

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I think Dice-K is a very good pitcher. But if I had a choice between the two that went head-to-head tonight, King Felix in my opinion has a much higher ceiling. Before all is said and done, Felix will have a couple Cy Young Awards under his belt. I don't think Dice-K will ever get one, but with Boston's lineup he'll do well.

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LMAO.this was only the 10th day of the season and ur picking a Cy young winner already.this was dice-k,s fen way debut dont you think all the hype,media attention and fans got to him at least a little bit.am sure his next start will be much better.and to answer your question yes he is that good you cant judge him based on this "OK" game that he had.some of the best pitchers in MLB history started their careers 0-2.he pitched this game good enough to win if only the hitters scored some runs.and yes felix hernandez just had better stuff than dice-k tonight.on a night when he gives up 3 runs and 8 hits.if this is a bad outing for him just imagine how dominate he,ll be when when his on his A-game......... yankee fans who are saying that hes not that good, u guys are just hating cuz u dnt have him.(lol u wish u had him on your starting rotation.(cuz it sucks!!!) GO SOX!!!

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It's his second not third complete game, he has only appeared in two games.

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I think situations around him can be pretty much summed up in one word: overhyped.

as if the lesson you should have learned from Irabu the toad was not enough.

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ok, I LOVE my Red Sox, but I can't help but think the same thing about Dice K. He's good, but there is SO MUCH hoopla on him. What's THAT about?
Now, Josh Beckett pitched a GREAT game, but not much was said about that!
I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens to Dice K.

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No one has really looked at Dice-K's stats here over his last 2 games:

ERA: 2.57
WHIP: 1.14

And the stats that few people look at, but which are just as important for evaluating the control/confidence of a pitcher:

BB/9: 1.29 - only walked 2 so far!
K/9: 9.00 - struck out a total of 14
K/BB: 7.00

I would never write this guy off or call him "overrated" with those first 2 game stats. He's clearly got control of the ball with only 2 walks, and his strikeouts are still coming. He's just beginning to warm up, folks.

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Well one of the new stats that baseball came up with is quality starts.that is when a pitcher goes at least 7 innings and gives up three earned runs or less.Do not underestimate the cold and even though Daisuke's performance was not as good as the one in KC,he stll kept his team in the game.Hernandez was just the better pitcher that day.In the meantime,hold off on the awards till we finish the season.Nobody has clinched a playoff berth in April so I don't think a player should win any awards then either.

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