Is the new Remington .17 Fireball a Good caliber?
I was wondering if the new Remington 17 Fireball was a good caliber for coyotes. I've been waiting and have enought money, so i am in the process of choosing a gun. I assume it is Centerfire, but if you know, let me know for sure. Will it do damage to the barrel since it such a high velocity? If you know about how much bullets are compared to like 22-250s could you let me know?
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the 17 fire ball is a center fire round it is a 221 fireball necked down to a 17 as far as using it for dogs you will be very disipionted the supper lite bullet will be efected by every thing around you the wind will move it alot if it hits a blade of grass it could be deflected a drop of rain can explode it in mid flight it is siply a target round i agree with some of the others that the 22-250 would make a very good roundif you shoot factory load most 22-250 will down a dog at 300 yards easy and you canpurchas the ammo fairly cheap ive not seen ony of the 17 fireball ammo yet but i expect it to be around 30 dollors a box of 20
the 17 fireball has been around for years until now it has been a hand load only it was also known as the 17 mk III
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Personally, I would go with a 22/250. Not only can you shoot coyotes, but deer as well.I just bought sabot .30 cal and i have a question?
FORGET ABOUT IT! GET YOURSELF A 22-250 or 243cal THEY ARE FAR MORE PRACTICAL AND DEADLY AND CAN BE USED ON A GREATER VARIETY OF GAME!!! I WOULD CHOOSE THE 243cal!! YOU WILL GET MORE FOR YOUR MONEY!!IF YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE .17 HMR IT IS A RIMFIRE CARTRIDGE, IT IS NOT GOING TO DO ANY HARM TO ANYTHING. IT IS JUST AN AWESOME VARMINT CALIBER. LIKE A SUPER CHARGED .22 .BETTER ACCURANCY AND VELOCITY. AND CLEANER PROJECTILE.
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anyway I tend to recommend waiting for cartridges to develop a following before buying a gun. My experience is that prices on new cartridges are higher and then settle down if the cartridge becomes popular. It is a centerfire.
I personally don't recommend a .22 bullet for deer. If you hunt for the pelts I understand the desire for a .17. Yet I don't recommend new cartridges. Most new cartridges never get a good consistent following. You may find a single overpriced box at the sporting goods store a few years after you bought the gun if you're lucky. I know if the 17 fireball takes off you will be pissed you didn't buy one. If it flounders you will be more pissed if you did buy one.
If you really want to buy one get into reloading. Oh from what little I could tell it is unlikely to eat up your barrel... but I am not sure about that
It really depends on what you plan to shoot. the .17 fireball will be a great gun for target shooting, and small game(such as coyotes). The whole concept of the .17 f/b is to shoot at very high velocitys, so it will shoot alot flater. Basicly if you want something to shoot bigger animals such as deer, you should get something a little bigger, but if you want a good target/varmit gun then the .17 fireball sounds like a good deal.
As far as coyotes, it should be powerful enough. CCI makes .22lr ammo that is suggested to use from "mice to coyotes". I have never killed one with a .22, but im sure if you can use a .22, then a .17f/b should be more than enough.
no it isnt center fire you should get a bigger caliber such as a 30-30
The 17 Rem Fireball is actually the factory name for the 7 year old Wildcat load the 17 Mack IV.
That would make it a Center Fire, 4,000fps will be a factory load, at that speed I would say you may see barrel erosion.
All my experience in .17 cal is, it has a limited bullet selection from 20 to 40 grains for reloading from Hornady, this little projectile has limited use in my opinion for game larger then a Fox.
The small projectile suffers from wind drift in just a slight breeze.
The price I see in Cabela’s 2006 catalog shows Remington Express 22.250 at $10.99
And The 17 Remington at $17.99 both on 20 count box.
I see only one bullet style shown in the catalog 25 gr HP.
I my self would not use this on coyotes, I have too much respect for the animals I hunt not to try and go a field with any weapon that will not allow for consistent 1 shot kills.
I would say 223, 22.250, 25-06.
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I haven't seen it yet but I assume it's a necked-down 221 Fireball, which itself would not be enough for a good coyote round. I'd go no smaller than 223, and 22-250 would, of course, be even better. And our Texas brethren may disagree, but I object to using any 22 cal. on deer. I've personally even retired my 6mm from that job, and use it for coyotes now.The 17 fireball is a good coyote rifle, but I would recommend you get a .223. Bullets are cheap for the .223, and you can get a big variety of bullets that make the .223 good for a lot of things. I reload for all my center fire rifles, and that saves money and you can customize your loads for your rifle to make it more accurate and usually a little more powerful than factory loaded bullets. My Ruger Model 77 .223 does 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards, and I've killed crows with it up to about 300 yards.
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I've heard about the new .17 Fireball but don't know much about it since it's a new caliber. It is fast and flat shooting and works great on small game. I'm not sure if I would use it for coyotes. A bigger caliber might be more suited to 'yotes.If you shoot a lot of rounds very fast, it can hurt the barrel with heat and friction but normal practice shouldn't hurt it. The .17 Mach 2 and HMR are a bit expensive and the Fireball probably is too. Consider this; If the .17 Fireball does not become popular, the bullets might be hard to find or impossible. I would buy a more common caliber since coyotes aren't really small game.
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