Rock River M1911A1, $359.99 brand new w/box. Good Buy?
The gun is brand new in box. The price in incredible but i am unfamiliar with Rock River. I also saw a Springfeild Armory M1911A1 w/box and cleaning rod and extra mag for $489.99. Should i spring for the Sprienfeild or any even better 1911? Both the Rock River and Spriendfeild have all traditional parts, down turned beaver tail, horrible combat sights, big clunky hammer, shitty trigger. All thoughts and suggetions are welcome.
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Bound's hubby here:Both the Springfield and the Rock River 1911A1s are good pistols. I believe the Springfield is more readily available. The Rock Rivers are made by a smaller company and I do not think they have the production volume of Springfield. Because of production quality, I would take a Springfield or a Rock River over a current production model Colt. Colt's quality control plummetted around mid-1980. I have actually seen several "new" Colt Gold Cups fly apart in firing.
Rock River is a reputable company. I have one of their A4 uppers on a "Space Gun" that I have built for competition. You get a reputable product for a fair price.
The price you saw IS a very good price. From our earlier discussions, we know many of the modifications that you will probably have done since this will probably be your carry gun. By the price, this sounds like an entry level .45. Do not expect a target grade match pistol. Expect that this pistol will shoot a five inch group at 25 yards, enough to fit in the 5K ring of the old "Colt" K/D Police Target. This is very good accuracy for a self-defense pistol.
Please keep in mind, in a self-defense pistol reliability is a greater need than miniscule groups. The close tolerances of a target grade pistol may work against you in a self-defense carry gun. You will want your carry gun to be a little looser than you will find in a target pistol. Chances are very unlikely that you will engage a partially exposed bad guy behind an innocent human shield so you will not want rifle-like accuracy in a carry gun.
You are going to spend money to make your carry pistol the pistol you want to carry. As stated in an earlier question the frame and slide is what you need, it is the heart of your project. If you can start your project with less out of pocket expense, so much the better. Just a quick reminder, any carry gun you build is never going to be finished, something new will come out or you will want to make a change and try something new. Just remember, the 1911 in it's basic dress is tried and true. It survived military service for almost 75 years with only one modification. Current changes (modifications) are generally cosmetic bells and whistles.
Good luck.
Gotta say I've never heard of a Rock River brand firearm. If I HAD to choose out of the two, I'd go with the Springfield. However, if I was looking for a 1911 Model and there was a good ole Colt sitting next to it for a little more money, I'd take the Colt. This looks to be another one of those "You get what you pay for" deals. Whatever your choice, enjoy your your right to purchase any own a firearm.
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I owned my friend's Colt 1911 for a bit but was eager to get it back to him. All 1911's tend to be heavy and "clunky." His gun was pretty heavy for a carry gun. However, the 1911 was the standard sidearm for the Army for decades and many a serviceman has a story owing his life to the gun. As far as 1911's go, they have parts readily available for customizing (grips, triggers, beavertails, etc.) to make the gun truly individual to the owner. The basic design of the 1911 has been largely unchanged since it's creation and some go so far to say it's the perfect gun. I don't know much about the Rock River 1911. I have seen no negative press about their AR style rifles. I imagine their 1911 line is no different in quality. If the gun is new, you can always get it and sell it if you don't like it to a gun store near you. Guns, like cars, are interesting things. You clean them, use them, and sometimes swear while repairing them. Companies I know of that make a 1911 type gun are Colt, Springfield, Rock River, Smith and Wesson, and countless others. It seems like everyone wants to jump on the 1911 bandwagon Colt created all those years ago. You pay for the name. They all seem to fire on the same principle in the end. It's the name engraved on the side of the gun that dictates what you pay. All in all, buy the gun and see how you like it. That, in the long run, is what truly matters -- not price.What is the fps on each pump of a crosman pumpmaster bb gun?
just for the price i say buy it, rock river are fine maker of firearms, hell call me i will give you 400.00 for it i am happy you make a profit. all in all, buy the pistol. a good deal, even if it as a plain jane model.Is there any money in Poaching in UK?
Rock River Arms makes good quality AR-15's but wouldn't know about their 1911 model.Would it be better to upgrade my tippman 98 or buy a new gun?
That sounds like a good deal. Rock River has a quality reputation from what I've heard. If I were in the market for a 1911, I would take the Rock River gun.Are you talking about a Rock Island Armory 1911?
That sounds like the ones that wholesale for $299..so yes $359 is a good price, maybe not a great deal but about expected.
Well, they aren't a Colt, but for the price they are pretty darn good. Made in the Phillipines if memory serves. All the 1911 custom parts fit well, so you can make it like you like it fairly easy. It's not an 'investment' gun..you won't ever see it get higher in value.but for shooting they work real nice.
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Buy the Springfield. The metal is harder and will last longer.The rock river is softer metal and wears quicker.
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