Having problem with lay back spins (figure skating) What to do?
I can't "lay back" with losing balance or speed or BOTH! I push my tummy out and then I put my leg back and then I lay back! Still doesn't work! help!
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Try practicing port de bras away from the bar. You want to lift from the hips and break at the hips. NEVER just put your head back, thats part of your problem. Additionally, I don't know who told you to stick your tummy out, because this is not what you want to do at all. If anything you should be sucking your tummy in when you lift your upper half before bending back. Just putting the head back makes you feel off balance, and you can hurt your neck this way. Always try to keep your head from breaking - you want the head and neck to be an extension of what your back is doing.
Lift from the hips, then start to lean backwards - your back will arch naturally. Again your tummy should almost feel like you are sucking it in. You should not be concentrating so much on putting your stomach out. there should be little to no break from the area around your tummy, FROM THE HIPS.
Once you have the back bend down, try lifting your leg into the attitude position. you can hold onto the bar if you need to , but try to work on being able to do it without holding on. All of this should be done off the ice. Once you have this down into muscle memory start trying to implement the same ideas on the ice.
When you start trying it on the ice, (assuming you skate counterclockwise) when you begin the spin, your left leg should be ever so slightly in front of you, but almost out to the side. Your back should be straight and your standing leg should be slightly bent. Then you start moving your free leg into the attitude, straightning the standing leg, and laying back into position at the same time. when you are breaking at the hips this should push your bottom half's weight forward slightly, which will give you the balance you need. Make sure your are not letting your neck bend backwards, and that your standing leg is straight.
You really need to get a coach or ballet instructor to help you with the actual movement. Its very hard to explain without showing and helping one position themselves.
The last thing I can tell you is.you will not ever fall backwards and hurt yourself, you'll be able to stop any motion like that before your fall, so be daring, and don't be concerned. Laybacks are just as much mental as they are physical. So having a positive attitude that you won't get hurt doing them is very important.
This sport is not for the cautious, and this is one of the only elements that feels harder than it looks. Don't be intimidated, you can do it, and you won't break anything. Completely different story for the jumps, but this is safe.
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make sure your keeping your leg striaght, you might accidently be bending it.Winter olympics in southern hemishere. Why or why not?
i have trouble with these too...my coach told me to do a good attitude spin, and then slightly bring your arms up and tilt back you head a little bit...not too much right away...or it'll throw you off...and then keep doing that until you can "lay back" as far as you want to.I can roller skate very well, would I be able to ice skate easily?
Don't worry about the arch too much. Just try to put your head back wards and spin. When you start doing them, it's hard, but as you start spinning more difficult spins, and gain more experience, it will not be hard to work on the arch. Also, if you want a better arch, make sure to lift yourself up onto the toepick of the black, before you actually get into a layback position. This will prevent you from losing speed.As for the free leg, do stress too much about it. But a good tip is too never pull you free leg too high. If you do that, you will not get your desired arch. Start out with a lower free leg first such as a one that almost touches the ice.
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if your office and you practice doing like a half back bend you get the feel of REALLY getting your stomach out so you dont lose your balance also maybe your spinning foot isn't straight enough or maybe where you have your arms in the spin is throwing you off balance maybe you leen to one side to much when you spin or maybe your not looking up at the ceiling when your in a layback you should be watching the ceiling going around in circles it'll look like it anyways so make sure your keeping centered and keeping your hips pushed out.To any figure skaters out there...?
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hey!ok i had the same problem. try this, imagine you were going into a cross toed spin and at the last minute turn your leg around into a layback position. keep your hips level (knee turned out, foot lower than knee. bend from your waist at first, the back bending will come with practise. at first instead of having your arms held in a first position (ballet position) above your chest bring your arms in. i know this sounds a little confusing so here are some videos to show you what i mean (the girl isnt me by the way)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=altqjhwbr...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1yxj7gtz...
Hope this helps you, good luck! xoxox
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You need to make sure your keeping your hips square, and your arms are more forward to balence out the weight. You don't want your arms right above your head in the layback you want them an inch or 2 in front of you. That will help keep your balance. As for your speed make sure your not moving your free leg or wabbling, you want everything to be tight so the spin goes smoothly. Make sure the only part of your body that moves is your arms (if you want most skaters do their own thing with their arms) This should work, because I had the same problem as you and my coach told me to do this and my layback rocks! lol Good Luck!just relax and go slow at first just think about the picture of you doing a perfect layback in your head and go for it
First of all you have to make sure that your body is in line. Try standing up against the walls of the rink before you do one to make sure you have it right. Make sure your hips are square. Make sure that your the leg behind you is straight back. If you have it too much to the left or too much to the right it could throw you off balance. Then try playing with your arms a little bit to figure out what works for you to keep you balanced. It just takes some work to get it. Try practicing the position off ice. And try doing a layback spin off ice (ballet spinning).
get balanced on your foot and adjust your balance during the spin to make sure youre completely balanced
practaice off ice skills for a while,
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To do a correct lay back you can't just put your head back, otherwise it would be called a tilt back. If you watch skaters with the best lay backs, Alissa Czisny, for example, they push their hips forward and don't move their heads at all. Here are some steps that my coach told me:1. Set your arms and free leg up first. If you're putting your arms in a hoop, make sure to do it by your belly button, not your chest.
2. Just push your hips forward. Don't even think about your head. If this spin is done the right way you should be able to put a tray on your stomach without it falling off.
This has worked for me, and all of my coach's students. I hope that it helps!
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